Discussion:
How do I backup my SeaMonkey now ?
DoctorBill
2017-04-07 05:38:16 UTC
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I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the
menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.

How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?

DoctorBill
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and Finnish leaving the Bathroom,
What are you while you're in the Bathroom?

European......
Ray_Net
2017-04-07 06:32:50 UTC
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Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru
the menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
Just copy the profile when SM is not running nor in the taskmanager ....
upon another drive(external or internal)/directory or on an usb stick.
And you will see how big is the copy.
I do that - no so often .... and
This is what I do when I upgrade SM:
Copy: SeaMonkey directory from C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\
into: C:\ALLDATA\Backup-SM-profile\2.40\
2.66 GB for the "Seamonkey" directory
DoctorBill
2017-04-07 07:00:12 UTC
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Post by Ray_Net
Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru
the menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
Just copy the profile when SM is not running nor in the taskmanager ....
upon another drive(external or internal)/directory or on an usb stick.
And you will see how big is the copy.
I do that - no so often .... and
Copy: SeaMonkey directory from C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\
into: C:\ALLDATA\Backup-SM-profile\2.40\
2.66 GB for the "Seamonkey" directory
Thank you. That is what I did....

I thought SM had a backup function incorporated into it.....

DoctorBill
--
If you are Russian going into the Bathroom
and Finnish leaving the Bathroom,
What are you while you're in the Bathroom?

European......
Dirk Munk
2017-04-07 08:52:48 UTC
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Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the
menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
Mr. Ed
2017-04-07 10:54:29 UTC
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WaltS48
2017-04-07 11:48:15 UTC
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Post by Dirk Munk
Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru
the menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
But the last version of that was in 2011. As the author states on his
"MozBackup is not being developed anymore. There are known issues and
there is no time on my side to fix all issues and develop new
features. Use MozBackup only on your risk. Thanks for understanding.
Source code is available on GitHub
<https://github.com/JasnaPaka/mozbackup>."
Can anyone verify that it still works properly with SM/FF?
I never used it and follow the same procedure as Ray_Net, when I think
about it.
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Dirk Munk
2017-04-07 12:40:15 UTC
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Post by Dirk Munk
Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru
the menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
"MozBackup is not being developed anymore. There are known issues and
there is no time on my side to fix all issues and develop new features.
Use MozBackup only on your risk. Thanks for understanding. Source code
is available on GitHub <https://github.com/JasnaPaka/mozbackup>."
Can anyone verify that it still works properly with SM/FF?
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testify against himself!" Mister Ed
I used it when I moved my Seamonkey stuff from my old laptop to my new
one. It worked like dream, but that was 5 years ago.

I would suggest one or some capable programmers have a look at the
sources, and fix any issues with it.

Such a Windows backup utility for all Mozilla browsers is very handy.
Arnie Goetchius
2017-04-07 13:16:52 UTC
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Post by Dirk Munk
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the menu
bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
"MozBackup is not being developed anymore. There are known issues and there is
no time on my side to fix all issues and develop new features. Use MozBackup
only on your risk. Thanks for understanding. Source code is available on
GitHub <https://github.com/JasnaPaka/mozbackup>."
Can anyone verify that it still works properly with SM/FF?
--
"This is America! You can't make a horse
testify against himself!" Mister Ed
I used it when I moved my Seamonkey stuff from my old laptop to my new one. It
worked like dream, but that was 5 years ago.
I used it about 3 months ago to copy from my laptop to a desktop with OS of Win
10. Had no problems
I would suggest one or some capable programmers have a look at the sources, and
fix any issues with it.
Such a Windows backup utility for all Mozilla browsers is very handy.
NFN Smith
2017-04-07 17:52:57 UTC
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Post by Dirk Munk
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
"MozBackup is not being developed anymore. There are known issues and
there is no time on my side to fix all issues and develop new features.
Use MozBackup only on your risk. Thanks for understanding. Source code
is available on GitHub <https://github.com/JasnaPaka/mozbackup>."
Can anyone verify that it still works properly with SM/FF?
I've done backups and recoveries with Seamonkey, although that was
several years ago, and I'm now to the point where there's been enough
development since the last release that I think there's growing danger
in trusting it. Even though I'm enthusiastic about the concept of
MozBackup (both the ability of selective content backups and restores,
as well as making it easier for non-technical users by not having to
depths of Windows user profile), I'm now discouraging use.

Because Thunderbird and Seamonkey are trailing-edge products, relative
to Firefox development, I'm inclined to believe that it's more likely to
see problems with Firefox. However, TB 52.0 is more likely to have
issues than TB 45.x (or 38.x) and Seamonkey 2.46 or later more than
2.40, or earlier versions.

I think the only way I would trust MozBackup in Seamonkey is by regular
testing of it by restoring a backup to a test profile, and then
thoroughly exercising that profile, to ensure that everything works. Do
this long before you need to do a backup recovery, and redo that
exercise every time you upgrade to a new version of Seamonkey.

Smith
Mr. Ed
2017-04-07 20:22:52 UTC
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Post by Dirk Munk
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the menu
bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
"MozBackup is not being developed anymore. There are known issues and there is
no time on my side to fix all issues and develop new features. Use MozBackup
only on your risk. Thanks for understanding. Source code is available on
GitHub <https://github.com/JasnaPaka/mozbackup>."
Can anyone verify that it still works properly with SM/FF?
--
"This is America! You can't make a horse
testify against himself!" Mister Ed
Thanks for the replies. I will continue backing up by copying the profile along
with my normal daily backups.
--
"This is America! You can't make a horse
testify against himself!" Mister Ed
Henk Fictorie
2017-04-08 09:04:35 UTC
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Post by Dirk Munk
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
"MozBackup is not being developed anymore. There are known issues and
there is no time on my side to fix all issues and develop new features.
Use MozBackup only on your risk. Thanks for understanding. Source code
is available on GitHub <https://github.com/JasnaPaka/mozbackup>."
Can anyone verify that it still works properly with SM/FF?
I did work last summer when I migrated thunderbird emails to my mothers
new laptop.
I used it long after 2011 to migrate Seamonkey/FireFox/Thunderbird
profiles to new hardware.

Henk

David E. Ross
2017-04-07 15:33:25 UTC
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Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the
menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
When I install a new version of SeaMonkey, I copy my profiles to a
folder named "save SM profiles".

Otherwise, I do complete backups of my system as described at
<http://www.rossde.com/computer_backup.html>. After all, I have data
and software no less important than SeaMonkey. Why would I (or you)
backup only SeaMonkey?
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<http://www.rossde.com>

Consider:
* Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance.
* Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance.
* If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory.
* If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory.

Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad??
NFN Smith
2017-04-07 17:43:24 UTC
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Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the
menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
Pretty much a matter of copying
%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles\********.default\*.* to another
location. This method disambiguates any locally-specific settings (other
than the random salt string at the beginning of the profile name), and
works for both XP and Win 6.x (Vista and newer).


Where you copy it to is up to you. One option is to simply copy to
another location on your hard drive (say, your Documents library), where
it can then be picked up by your regular backups. Output to other
media, including USB thumb drive, external hard drive, LAN-connected
drive, or cloud all have various ways to be commended. If you want to,
you can zip-compress the output. If you're a Linux or Mac user, it's
easy enough to write a script that copies into a compressed .ZIP or tar
archive.


Unfortunately, there aren't any built-in backup utilities in any Mozilla
offering.

Smith
DoctorBill
2017-04-07 18:35:56 UTC
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Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the
menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
I want to thank everyone for your input !

I am copying the
/users/pc/appdata/roaming/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles/xxxxxxxx..default
to a Thumb Drive....so it won't be lost if my compuker goes TU - like
it recently did !

DoctorBill
--
If you are Russian going into the Bathroom
and Finnish leaving the Bathroom,
What are you while you're in the Bathroom?

European......
Arnie Goetchius
2017-04-07 19:42:58 UTC
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Post by DoctorBill
Post by DoctorBill
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the
menu bar,
but I cannot now find that.
How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ?
How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ?
DoctorBill
I want to thank everyone for your input !
I am copying the
/users/pc/appdata/roaming/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles/xxxxxxxx..default
to a Thumb Drive....so it won't be lost if my compuker goes TU - like it
recently did !
DoctorBill
I bought a refurbished HP tower for $75 from Walmart and run it in parallel with
my regular computer. So I always have duplicate copies of Seamonkey, Quicken,
etc etc
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