Discussion:
SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.
Mozilla User
2017-12-19 00:39:16 UTC
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I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.

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Luis Carlos González Moráles
2017-12-19 01:05:21 UTC
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I know. What I know is that I liked SeaMonkey better than firefox and
thunderbird. The problem is that for a blind user I don't know if that
project will be ded or instantly revive in an other project, just thinking.
Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the
newer version of their mail system. I tried to download and install
the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.
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Paul in Houston, TX
2017-12-19 01:13:58 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old Version of YT. Once
they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT without it freezing and locking
up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer version of their
mail system. I tried to download and install the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess
what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. and that
sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my history on the internet.
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Paul B. Gallagher
2017-12-19 01:24:43 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
Sorry you're having trouble, but I haven't noticed it at all. YouTube
performs just as well for me as it always has. I haven't tweaked it or
made any special accommodations. It just runs. The same goes for my
other video sources, the main exceptions being nhl.com and mlb.com,
which seem purposely designed to be incompatible with AdBlock Plus. ;-)
But even mlb.com is marginally tolerable if I disable ABP and mute the
ads. I do so hate that damn gecko!

I haven't tried uninstalling Flash, Shockwave, and VLC player, so maybe
that matters.
Post by Mozilla User
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
Here, too, I don't share your experience. Of course I've always hated
webmails, so if there's a problem outside of POP3/IMAP/SMTP I wouldn't
know about it. Two or three times a year I go into Gmail for a few
minutes to tweak a setting or double-check the spam folder, but that's
pretty much it; the rest of the time I send/receive Gmail through
SMTP/POP3 like the rest of my accounts.
Post by Mozilla User
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.
I really wish people wouldn't extrapolate from their own individual
experience to the thousands of users out there in cyberspace. A sample
size of one is nearly meaningless in global terms even if it is the most
important one to you.
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WaltS48
2017-12-19 02:25:12 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
What doesn't work on YouTube?

My SeaMonkey supports all items on this page, and I have no problems
with YT.

<https://www.youtube.com/html5>
Post by Mozilla User
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
With all Yahoo users data being hacked in the past I wouldn't use it at
all. I closed my Yahoo account when they announced they wouldn't support
users Do Not Track browser setting.
Post by Mozilla User
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.
I know the Firefox browser has millions more users than SeaMonkey. I
think the latest figure for SM users I heard mentioned was 75,000.
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be your problem. Have you tried disabling it on YT?

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Paul Bergsagel
2017-12-19 03:14:04 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.
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I am not experiencing any of the problems or issues you describe.
SeaMonkey works perfectly for me.

Possibly you may need to check the way your computer or SeaMonkey is
configured.

If SeaMonkey operated in the manner you describe the SeaMonkey forum
would have many more posts than yours wondering why SeaMonkey was not
operating correctly.

It may also be that I have a much different experience than you do since
I am using the MacOS.

YouTube works perfectly with SeaMonkey. Nine times out of ten the only
time SeaMonkey fails to function as expected is when a web page is badly
written by not following the standard rules for designing web pages.

A final thought: maybe you are a troll. I hope not.
Mozilla User
2017-12-19 04:00:44 UTC
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I'm not a troll.. I had to go to
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1 just to load YouTube until I
found out on another forum I could revert back to the previous version
of YouTube.

Loading up Yahoo Mail brings me to this page included in the attachment,
and clicking on Try It Later, just reloads the page instead of taking me
to my inbox.

Like I mentioned, I wanted to load up User Agent Switcher to trick the
websites into thinking I was using Chrome or something else, but of
course that is no longer supported by SeaMonkey 2.49.1, so I'm stuck.
I've got to switch to a new browser I suppose because everything I use
with this browser are slowly becoming unsupported.

If it's working for you, then I don't know what you are doing different.
I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.1, Windows 10 64bit.


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Felix Miata
2017-12-19 04:23:19 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I've got to switch to a new browser
No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken
over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on
my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using
different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a
different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla.
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Paul in Houston, TX
2017-12-19 04:44:57 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I'm not a troll..
Please turn off the Avast.
My Youtube and Yahoo webmail work ok.
I did need to up the User agent override numbers though.

You don't need User Agent Switcher. Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; rv:57.0)
Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
Post by Mozilla User
I had to go to https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1 just to load
YouTube until I found out on another forum I could revert back to the previous version of
YouTube.
Loading up Yahoo Mail brings me to this page included in the attachment, and clicking on
Try It Later, just reloads the page instead of taking me to my inbox.
Like I mentioned, I wanted to load up User Agent Switcher to trick the websites into
thinking I was using Chrome or something else, but of course that is no longer supported
by SeaMonkey 2.49.1, so I'm stuck. I've got to switch to a new browser I suppose because
everything I use with this browser are slowly becoming unsupported.
If it's working for you, then I don't know what you are doing different. I am using
SeaMonkey 2.49.1, Windows 10 64bit.
EE
2017-12-19 18:39:46 UTC
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You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128;
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
User Agent Switcher still works. If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser. Just right-click the
green button and choose save.
Desiree
2017-12-22 11:06:11 UTC
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Post by EE
You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128;
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
User Agent Switcher still works. If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser. Just right-click the
green button and choose save.
So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49? It works fine as is in 2.48.
Ed Mullen
2017-12-22 16:48:45 UTC
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You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128;
x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the
green button and choose save.
So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49?  It works fine as is in
2.48.
Working fine here in v2.49.1
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EE
2017-12-22 17:57:17 UTC
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You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128;
x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the
green button and choose save.
So, it stops working without this fix in 2.49?  It works fine as is in
2.48.
That depends on what the max version was. It will be considered
"incompatible" if the max version is less than the current version of
SeaMonkey. In fact, I took to increasing the max version in all themes
and extensions that I use with SeaMonkey to avoid the hassle of them
being called incompatible the next time I update SeaMonkey.
Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez
2017-12-26 12:23:58 UTC
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Post by Paul in Houston, TX
Post by Mozilla User
I'm not a troll..
Please turn off the Avast.
My Youtube and Yahoo webmail work ok.
I did need to up the User agent override numbers though.
You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128;
x128; rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
Being a Yahoo! user that hardly ever access to the webmail UI, I can
confirm that:

1) Yahoo! Mail does not work with SeaMonkey "out-of-the-box", nor
checking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" with Advanced preferences.

2) Manually adding, through about:config, right-click > Add new >
string value and the preference Paul mentions, makes Yahoo! Mail works
(although I find it very sluggish).

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2017-12-27 13:15:14 UTC
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Post by Paul in Houston, TX
You don't need User Agent Switcher. Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128;
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0
I'm accessing Yahoo! Mail mostly via SeaMonkey Mail (IMAP), but for
seamless web access I've set:

general.useragent.override.mail.yahoo.com
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

That is I'm using the override just for the mail.yahoo.com site, and I'm
not really advertising higher Firefox version (than 52 ESR), at present.
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EE
2017-12-19 18:30:57 UTC
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Post by Felix Miata
Post by Mozilla User
I've got to switch to a new browser
No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken
over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on
my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using
different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a
different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla.
SeaMonkey is my default browser still, but I found Pale Moon to be great
as well.
Paul B. Gallagher
2017-12-19 04:43:36 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
Actually, Yahoo Mail works fine for me on SM 2.49.1 and Win7 Pro SP1 (64
bit). I don't get the stupid upgrade prompt you posted in your other
(deleted) message in this thread. Have you tried Edit | Preferences |
Advanced | HTTP Networking:
User Agent String
[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility?

But as I said upthread, I hardly ever use webmails. I had to make a
special exception for you.
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Mozilla User
2017-12-19 05:03:05 UTC
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Post by Paul B. Gallagher
Post by Mozilla User
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the
newer version of their mail system. I tried to download and install
the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
Actually, Yahoo Mail works fine for me on SM 2.49.1 and Win7 Pro SP1 (64
bit). I don't get the stupid upgrade prompt you posted in your other
(deleted) message in this thread. Have you tried Edit | Preferences |
    User Agent String
    [x] Advertise Firefox compatibility?
I haven't tried that.. why was the post deleted?

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Mozilla User
2017-12-19 05:05:32 UTC
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I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.

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meagain
2017-12-21 00:36:02 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.
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I use YouTube regularly with SeaMonkey 2.49.1 and have seen no problems
at all. Yes, I advertise Firefox.
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2017-12-21 05:36:39 UTC
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Post by meagain
Post by Mozilla User
I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.
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I use YouTube regularly with SeaMonkey 2.49.1 and have seen no problems
at all.  Yes, I advertise Firefox.
Ditto.
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2017-12-21 17:18:51 UTC
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Post by Ant via support-seamonkey
Post by meagain
I use YouTube regularly with SeaMonkey 2.49.1 and have seen no
problems at all. Yes, I advertise Firefox.
Ditto.
I, too, have no problems on YouTube with 2.51
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BERTRAND Joel
2017-12-19 06:30:41 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
I don't understand. I use Seamonkey 2.49.1 (on Linux and Free/NetBSD)
and I don't see any trouble with YT (I have to add that last firefox has
a lot of problems with the same version of YT).

Best regards,

JKB
TCW
2017-12-19 13:51:57 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.
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I'm using a build from Frank-Rainer of x64 2.53 and it works well with
*some* stuff still needing to be fixed. But it's stable for daily use.
Youtube works. Certainly I agree that Seamonkey is not maintained like
it used to be but it's because of the build system. But dead? Not quite
yet. I don't think there's been motivation to catch up since things have
fallen so far behind and I imagine it's very difficult to garner the
will to want to catch up.
Frank-Rainer Grahl
2017-12-19 16:19:37 UTC
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But dead? Not quite yet.
No in zombie state and just keeps going :)
I don't think there's been motivation to catch up since things have fallen
so far behind and I imagine it's very difficult to garner the will to want to
catch up.

Well for every breakage fixed in the new builds you get 2 new because of other
"improvements" or removals of a few lines of code from core because they are
no longer used in Fx and are such a huuugggee burden on the codebase... The
motivation to keep up is maybe not so great anymore but SeaMonkey is still
building. I am loonking forward to the ESR 60 release so that we can finally
see what needs to be fixed.

We try but not enigh devs. But it has been declared dead for years and is
still running fine :)

FRG
Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT
without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the extension
User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the
current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did..
and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my
history on the internet.
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I'm using a build from Frank-Rainer of x64 2.53 and it works well with *some*
stuff still needing to be fixed. But it's stable for daily use. Youtube works.
Certainly I agree that Seamonkey is not maintained like it used to be but it's
because of the build system. But dead? Not quite yet. I don't think there's
been motivation to catch up since things have fallen so far behind and I
imagine it's very difficult to garner the will to want to catch up.
Ed Mullen
2017-12-19 15:21:10 UTC
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On 12/18/2017 at 7:39 PM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital
Post by Mozilla User
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
SM 2.49.1 on Win 10 Pro. User Agent Switcher installed and working just
fine.
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NFN Smith
2017-12-19 16:44:25 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm running 2.49.1, and not having any problems with either one -- and I
make extensive use of both NoScript and AdBlock plus.

When you have issues of this nature, the problem is rarely Seamonkey
itself, but problems accumulated in your user profile. The same
principle applies to both Firefox and Thunderbird.

Over time, entropy can set into a profile, especially if you do much in
the way of extensions.

See what happens when you try Seamonkey in safe mode (Help -> Restart
with add-ons disabled). Besides temporarily extensions, it will also
temporarily reset most of your preferences to default. In my own
experience, I've found that even a one-time start of Seamonkey in safe
mode can occasionally be sufficient to clear problems.

If you have more than a couple of extensions, you might try
uninstall/reinstall on each.

You may also want to see what you can do with a fresh profile, where
you're really starting over from scratch. If you use Seamonkey for
mail, that takes a little more effort of copying your data over to a new
profile, but if your profile is really old, it may be worth the effort.

On my own setup, I keep a spare profile that is almost entirely default
configuration settings. On occasions that I have troubles getting to a
particular site (and I do have that happen some, with my use of blocking
tools), it's easy enough to launch the alternate profile. Although
there's a handful of sites that demand a Firefox User Agent string, the
default one that Seamonkey shows is usually sufficient, and I find it
very rare that I need to resort to spoofing (in my case, PrefBar), and
rarer still that a site will not work, if I'm spoofing.

However, making even temporary use of a near-pristine profile is enough
to be pretty conclusive that problems aren't generic to "Seamonkey", but
virtually always problems with the individual profile.

Smith
Mozilla User
2017-12-19 19:30:56 UTC
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YouTube still crashes with a script error for "desktop_polymer.js"
whenever I use YouTube's new format. As long as I stick with the older
style, I have no issues with unresponsive script errors.

I also fixed the problem with YahooMail by logging in from another
browser, and switching back to the older version of YahooMail as well.
After that, I am able to once again use it with this browser.



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Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
2017-12-27 18:59:29 UTC
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YouTube still crashes with a script error for "desktop_polymer.js"
whenever I use YouTube's new format. As long as I stick with the older
style, I have no issues with unresponsive script errors.
I haven't experienced YouTube crashes, and I'm using the latest (hidden)
version available at:

https://www.youtube.com/new

I'm using it as it enables choosing a dark theme which is generally more
easy on my eyes:

Loading Image...
Loading Image...
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Pat Connors
2017-12-27 19:20:26 UTC
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Post by Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey
I haven't experienced YouTube crashes, and I'm using the latest
I am using 2.51 and have no problems with uTube
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rjkrjk
2017-12-19 22:03:06 UTC
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a rather strong statement
not dead for me, very much alive and working very well.

it just may be YOUR setup that is not working
try safe mode

a question is much better than your statement
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I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old Version of YT. Once
they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT without it freezing and locking up
when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer version of their
mail system. I tried to download and install the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess
what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. and that sucks,
because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my history on the internet.
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Desiree
2017-12-22 10:59:53 UTC
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Post by Mozilla User
I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.
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User Agent Switcher works fine on SeaMonkey 2.48. i can't update to
2.49 internally so I just haven't done it. What version do you have
that User Agent Switcher won't work on?
Paul B. Gallagher
2017-12-22 11:24:52 UTC
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User Agent Switcher works fine on SeaMonkey 2.48.  i can't update to
2.49 internally so I just haven't done it.  What version do you have
that User Agent Switcher won't work on?
The OP's message contains the following in its source code:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

You can see this by doing CTRL-U or View | Message Source.
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j***@gmail.com
2018-01-01 02:12:08 UTC
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Seriously, I suspect SM is dead because too many of the extensions are going to become *unusable*. Trying to troubleshoot my brother's systems, and every extension I've tried with it have either not loaded at all, or report the downloads as corrupt. I have tried downloading the .xpi files on other machines and moving them over, but they still report as corrupt.

On top of that, the Mozilla site will find various extensions in a search for SM extensions, but when you go to the extension page, it will say it's only for Firefox. So as of now the Mozilla extension site is outright BROKEN, and unless this project can find a different hosting site, or can manage to get the Mozilla folks to remove their heads from their derrieres, SM will become dead simply because nothing will work with it anymore.

Really don't want to have to move him over to FF, because with the severe UI breakage, re-engineering, etc they've done with it, I know he would be cursing up a torrent of complaints about it from the moment he starts it up. Thunderbird not so much, although I expect he will find something to dislike there as well (and TB is likely to suffer the same fate as SM from where it stands right now).
WaltS48
2018-01-01 02:34:32 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Seriously, I suspect SM is dead because too many of the extensions are going to become *unusable*. Trying to troubleshoot my brother's systems, and every extension I've tried with it have either not loaded at all, or report the downloads as corrupt. I have tried downloading the .xpi files on other machines and moving them over, but they still report as corrupt.
On top of that, the Mozilla site will find various extensions in a search for SM extensions, but when you go to the extension page, it will say it's only for Firefox.
Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/>
j***@gmail.com
2018-01-02 13:06:24 UTC
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Post by WaltS48
Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/>
Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding most, when you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF only, and want you to download FF. It seems that if the extension at some time in the past had SM support, it will come up as compatible. No matter if it's from 5 years or so ago, and SM has changed since then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ can't or won't fix their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT versions of SM and the particular extensions.
WaltS48
2018-01-02 14:09:25 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by WaltS48
Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/>
Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding most, when you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF only, and want you to download FF. It seems that if the extension at some time in the past had SM support, it will come up as compatible. No matter if it's from 5 years or so ago, and SM has changed since then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ can't or won't fix their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT versions of SM and the particular extensions.
Install this extension and try again.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/amo-browsing-for-seamonkey/
Ray_Net
2018-01-02 22:17:22 UTC
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Post by WaltS48
Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by WaltS48
Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/>
Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding
most, when you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF
only, and want you to download FF.  It seems that if the extension at
some time in the past had SM support, it will come up as compatible. 
No matter if it's from 5 years or so ago, and SM has changed since
then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ can't or won't fix
their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT versions
of SM and the particular extensions.
Install this extension and try again.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/amo-browsing-for-seamonkey/
This is absolutely not normal that we need to install en extension to be
able to find other extensions :-(

Rubens via support-seamonkey
2018-01-02 20:03:04 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by WaltS48
Seriously, have you tried finding extensions here?
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/>
Yes, and when I've done a search for extensions there, I'm finding most, when you go to the extension page, will then say they're for FF only, and want you to download FF. It seems that if the extension at some time in the past had SM support, it will come up as compatible. No matter if it's from 5 years or so ago, and SM has changed since then (making the old extension incompatible), MZ can't or won't fix their search to make the results meaningful for the CURRENT versions of SM and the particular extensions.
I understand the problem described by the OP.

A few days ago I fell into the same situation, and had to resort to an archived/cached URL to reach the original Web page from when the extension was still available for Seamonkey.

One resource that works for *some* FF extensions is the extension converter tool here: http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
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