Discussion:
Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey
John
2013-03-14 18:46:01 UTC
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I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
M Gordon
2013-03-14 21:20:47 UTC
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Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Hello John,

The only way we can try to asst you is if you provide more detailed
information on your problem.

Example: The links in the left navigation panel look fine. They are
white, underlined, change to Italic font, and look like Arial Font.
After clicked and connected they rmain the same.

You also have an external Style Sheet and Composer will not read the
META tag for CSS. For that you need Komposer. or BlueGriffin.

Michael G
John
2013-03-16 14:37:29 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Hello John,
The only way we can try to asst you is if you provide more detailed
information on your problem.
Example: The links in the left navigation panel look fine. They are
white, underlined, change to Italic font, and look like Arial Font.
After clicked and connected they rmain the same.
You also have an external Style Sheet and Composer will not read the
META tag for CSS. For that you need Komposer. or BlueGriffin.
Michael G
Oh so that is why the colors are off in the SM Composer, I have those
apps but do not like them as much as SM. When will SM solve this issue
for I love SM and do not like those other editors.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
M Gordon
2013-03-16 15:19:42 UTC
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Post by John
Post by M Gordon
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Hello John,
The only way we can try to asst you is if you provide more detailed
information on your problem.
Example: The links in the left navigation panel look fine. They are
white, underlined, change to Italic font, and look like Arial Font.
After clicked and connected they rmain the same.
You also have an external Style Sheet and Composer will not read the
META tag for CSS. For that you need Komposer. or BlueGriffin.
Michael G
Oh so that is why the colors are off in the SM Composer, I have those
apps but do not like them as much as SM. When will SM solve this issue
for I love SM and do not like those other editors.
John,

I cannot say if or when SeaMonkey/Composer will ever be updated. It has
been many years since any work has been done to the HTML editor. There
was some talk a long time ago about importing Komposer, or BlueGriffin
into the SeaMonkey suite, but that has been silent for a very long time.

The best thing you can do for the time being is to use either HTML
editor, or a plain text editor, and use SeaMonkey as a proof-reader.
While editing a document has SM open to the page you are editing. When
you make a change, save the change, then reload SM to see the results.

Michael G
John
2013-03-16 18:40:33 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
John,
I cannot say if or when SeaMonkey/Composer will ever be updated. It has
been many years since any work has been done to the HTML editor. There
was some talk a long time ago about importing Komposer, or BlueGriffin
into the SeaMonkey suite, but that has been silent for a very long time.
The best thing you can do for the time being is to use either HTML
editor, or a plain text editor, and use SeaMonkey as a proof-reader.
While editing a document has SM open to the page you are editing. When
you make a change, save the change, then reload SM to see the results.
Michael G
Thanks Michael.

I do use TextWrangler sometimes to edit HTML code and it has one major
advantage in it can upload to the FTP server without me having to launch
my FTP client. A feature I wish Sea Monkey had!
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
Ed Mullen
2013-03-16 18:55:46 UTC
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Post by John
Post by M Gordon
John,
I cannot say if or when SeaMonkey/Composer will ever be updated. It has
been many years since any work has been done to the HTML editor. There
was some talk a long time ago about importing Komposer, or BlueGriffin
into the SeaMonkey suite, but that has been silent for a very long time.
The best thing you can do for the time being is to use either HTML
editor, or a plain text editor, and use SeaMonkey as a proof-reader.
While editing a document has SM open to the page you are editing. When
you make a change, save the change, then reload SM to see the results.
Michael G
Thanks Michael.
I do use TextWrangler sometimes to edit HTML code and it has one major
advantage in it can upload to the FTP server without me having to launch
my FTP client. A feature I wish Sea Monkey had!
In Composer, Edit - Publishing Site Settings.

File - Publish As.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Some people are only alive because it is illegal to shoot them.
John
2013-03-17 00:11:51 UTC
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Post by Ed Mullen
In Composer, Edit - Publishing Site Settings.
File - Publish As.
Oh I see that thanks. However it wont let me select a new directory to
publish too.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
Ed Mullen
2013-03-17 14:56:38 UTC
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Post by John
Post by Ed Mullen
In Composer, Edit - Publishing Site Settings.
File - Publish As.
Oh I see that thanks. However it wont let me select a new directory to
publish too.
Type a directory or path in the "Site subdirectory ..." box. Composer
remembers and will whow them in the drop-down list in the future.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Optirectumitis - where the optic nerve gets crossed with the rectal
nerve resulting in a crappy outlook on life.
M Gordon
2013-03-16 21:16:06 UTC
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Post by John
Post by M Gordon
John,
I cannot say if or when SeaMonkey/Composer will ever be updated. It has
been many years since any work has been done to the HTML editor. There
was some talk a long time ago about importing Komposer, or BlueGriffin
into the SeaMonkey suite, but that has been silent for a very long time.
The best thing you can do for the time being is to use either HTML
editor, or a plain text editor, and use SeaMonkey as a proof-reader.
While editing a document has SM open to the page you are editing. When
you make a change, save the change, then reload SM to see the results.
Michael G
Thanks Michael.
I do use TextWrangler sometimes to edit HTML code and it has one major
advantage in it can upload to the FTP server without me having to launch
my FTP client. A feature I wish Sea Monkey had!
John,

My preference is WS_FTP to publish my web pages. I can upload
documents, delete documents, upload modified documents, and compare
documents on the web server and my PC side-by-side.

Michael
John
2013-03-17 00:12:48 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
John,
My preference is WS_FTP to publish my web pages. I can upload
documents, delete documents, upload modified documents, and compare
documents on the web server and my PC side-by-side.
Is that a Windows app? I am on a Mac. I use Cyberduck
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
M Gordon
2013-03-17 01:51:09 UTC
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Post by John
Post by M Gordon
John,
My preference is WS_FTP to publish my web pages. I can upload
documents, delete documents, upload modified documents, and compare
documents on the web server and my PC side-by-side.
Is that a Windows app? I am on a Mac. I use Cyberduck
John,

WS_FTP is a PC (Windows) application, you might want to look at Fetch,
it is for a Mac and should perform the same tasking as WS_FTP.

Michael G
John
2013-03-17 02:53:36 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
Post by John
Post by M Gordon
John,
My preference is WS_FTP to publish my web pages. I can upload
documents, delete documents, upload modified documents, and compare
documents on the web server and my PC side-by-side.
Is that a Windows app? I am on a Mac. I use Cyberduck
John,
WS_FTP is a PC (Windows) application, you might want to look at Fetch,
it is for a Mac and should perform the same tasking as WS_FTP.
Michael G
I have it. Cyberduck is much nicer.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2013-03-16 16:23:05 UTC
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Post by John
Oh so that is why the colors are off in the SM Composer, I have those
apps but do not like them as much as SM. When will SM solve this issue
for I love SM and do not like those other editors.
SM will not "solve" this issue. Composer is dead.

First, I looked at your screenshot and what I see is that, most likely,
UNvisited links are in the white you desire. VISITED links are not. If you
would clear Composer's and the browser's cache, they would probably all be
white again. That's a guess because ... well, visited links normally are
no longer shown in the standard link colors.

SeaMonkey Composer is a dead product and has been for a decade or so. You
should drop it and use BlueGriffon which is still supported. Or, I would
really recommend using a real editor (and not a WYSIWYG editor) where you
have complete control. I prefer Bluefish.

Aside: there have been at least three iterations of the Composer since
Mozilla dropped it: NVu, KompoZer, and now BlueGriffon (the active one).
--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high
John
2013-03-16 18:58:08 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
SM will not "solve" this issue. Composer is dead.
First, I looked at your screenshot and what I see is that, most likely,
UNvisited links are in the white you desire. VISITED links are not. If you
would clear Composer's and the browser's cache, they would probably all be
white again. That's a guess because ... well, visited links normally are
no longer shown in the standard link colors.
I tried that but it did not work. However how right you are about the
links. Clicking on them in the browser makes them white in Composer.
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
SeaMonkey Composer is a dead product and has been for a decade or so. You
should drop it and use BlueGriffon which is still supported. Or, I would
really recommend using a real editor (and not a WYSIWYG editor) where you
have complete control. I prefer Bluefish.
That one looks complicated or is it not? What is a real editor and how
is it different than SEa Monkey? BlueGriffon? I may give it a shot again
but when I tried it last I did not like the interface. I liked KOMPOZER,
but it never got updated and it got dropped. Perhaps I should
BlueGriffon again.
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Aside: there have been at least three iterations of the Composer since
Mozilla dropped it: NVu, KompoZer, and now BlueGriffon (the active one).
Hmm.. Maybe I will try it again if I can get by the lame colors and
interface of that editor. I prefer the SM colors and interface.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2013-03-16 19:39:42 UTC
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Post by John
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
SM will not "solve" this issue. Composer is dead.
First, I looked at your screenshot and what I see is that, most likely,
UNvisited links are in the white you desire. VISITED links are not. If
you would clear Composer's and the browser's cache, they would probably
all be white again. That's a guess because ... well, visited links
normally are no longer shown in the standard link colors.
I tried that but it did not work. However how right you are about the
links. Clicking on them in the browser makes them white in Composer.
I think you should stop being concerned about Composer. It will never be
fixed and/or updated.
Post by John
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
SeaMonkey Composer is a dead product and has been for a decade or so.
You should drop it and use BlueGriffon which is still supported. Or, I
would really recommend using a real editor (and not a WYSIWYG editor)
where you have complete control. I prefer Bluefish.
That one looks complicated or is it not?
Depends on your skill level. It is not a WYSIWYG editor, and requires
knowledge of how to actually write HTML. (This would be good for you.)

<http://htmldog.com/>
Post by John
What is a real editor and how
is it different than SEa Monkey? BlueGriffon?>
Those are WYSIWYGSIYAL - What You See Is What You Get Sometimes If You Are
Lucky. If you don't really know HTML, it is kind of hard to answer that
question in a few words.

Analogy: I washed my car. (A. I drove it through a small building with
squirting water and whirling brushes, paid $10.00; or B. I got a bucket,
my garden hose, some sponges and a chamois, and the wife's dishwashing
liquid soap.)
Post by John
I may give it a shot again
but when I tried it last I did not like the interface. I liked KOMPOZER,
but it never got updated and it got dropped. Perhaps I should
BlueGriffon again.
Well, since even KompoZer appears dead, you might as well use the latest
iteration, as I've said several times now.
Post by John
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Aside: there have been at least three iterations of the Composer since
Mozilla dropped it: NVu, KompoZer, and now BlueGriffon (the active one).
Hmm.. Maybe I will try it again if I can get by the lame colors and
interface of that editor. I prefer the SM colors and interface.
Forget about the colors in your editor, so long as they appear as you want
when viewed at your web host.
--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high
John
2013-03-17 00:16:46 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Depends on your skill level. It is not a WYSIWYG editor, and requires
knowledge of how to actually write HTML. (This would be good for you.)
I think I am just interested in the basics of this computer business. I
dont want to get too complicated as those visiting my site are not
exactly computer types.
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
. I prefer the SM colors and interface.
Forget about the colors in your editor, so long as they appear as you want
when viewed at your web host.
Exactly. Good point.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
Geoff Welsh
2013-03-17 03:34:06 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Analogy: I washed my car. (A. I drove it through a small building with
squirting water and whirling brushes, paid $10.00; or B. I got a bucket,
my garden hose, some sponges and a chamois, and the wife's dishwashing
liquid soap.)
Yikes! Dish soap is terrible for automobiles...it's strips wax, car wash
soap doesn't.
GW
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2013-03-17 03:42:19 UTC
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Post by Geoff Welsh
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Analogy: I washed my car. (A. I drove it through a small building with
squirting water and whirling brushes, paid $10.00; or B. I got a bucket,
my garden hose, some sponges and a chamois, and the wife's dishwashing
liquid soap.)
Yikes! Dish soap is terrible for automobiles...it's strips wax, car wash
soap doesn't.
GW
:-)

It probably doesn't matter in the context of the usage, as the analogy was
lost.
--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high
Geoff Welsh
2013-03-17 03:55:34 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by Geoff Welsh
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Analogy: I washed my car. (A. I drove it through a small building with
squirting water and whirling brushes, paid $10.00; or B. I got a bucket,
my garden hose, some sponges and a chamois, and the wife's dishwashing
liquid soap.)
Yikes! Dish soap is terrible for automobiles...it's strips wax, car wash
soap doesn't.
GW
:-)
It probably doesn't matter in the context of the usage, as the analogy was
lost.
my comment seemed as productive, as discussing why a dead/outdated
computer program doesn't work correctly. and on btw, I am really pissed
that my eight-track tapes don't work in my 2013 Toyota....what the hell
dude!? Gonna complain to Toyota group now...
GW
Mark Berger
2013-03-16 19:01:51 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by John
Oh so that is why the colors are off in the SM Composer, I have those
apps but do not like them as much as SM. When will SM solve this issue
for I love SM and do not like those other editors.
SM will not "solve" this issue. Composer is dead.
First, I looked at your screenshot and what I see is that, most likely,
UNvisited links are in the white you desire. VISITED links are not. If you
would clear Composer's and the browser's cache, they would probably all be
white again. That's a guess because ... well, visited links normally are
no longer shown in the standard link colors.
SeaMonkey Composer is a dead product and has been for a decade or so. You
should drop it and use BlueGriffon which is still supported. Or, I would
really recommend using a real editor (and not a WYSIWYG editor) where you
have complete control. I prefer Bluefish.
Aside: there have been at least three iterations of the Composer since
Mozilla dropped it: NVu, KompoZer, and now BlueGriffon (the active one).
SeaMonkey Composer is a dead product and has been for a decade or so.
So why is it still included in the SM suite? It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2013-03-16 19:28:25 UTC
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Post by Mark Berger
So why is it still included in the SM suite?
I have absolutely no idea. You should write to the developers and ask!
Post by Mark Berger
It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.
You are very correct.
--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high
M Gordon
2013-03-16 21:25:14 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by Mark Berger
So why is it still included in the SM suite?
I have absolutely no idea. You should write to the developers and ask!
Post by Mark Berger
It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.
You are very correct.
Beau,

It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.

If they did figure out how to remove it without harm, would SeaMonkey
still be an Internet Suite?

It seems logical that the SM development team leader could contact the
developer of BlueGriffin and talk about porting BG into SM.

Michael G
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
2013-03-16 22:10:06 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by Mark Berger
So why is it still included in the SM suite?
I have absolutely no idea. You should write to the developers and ask!
Post by Mark Berger
It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.
You are very correct.
Beau,
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
That could be possible, and may also be why they don't update Composer.
(Not that I would care, as I am a Plain Text email person.)
Post by M Gordon
If they did figure out how to remove it without harm, would SeaMonkey
still be an Internet Suite?
Would it be a suite if they removed Chat?
Post by M Gordon
It seems logical that the SM development team leader could contact the
developer of BlueGriffin and talk about porting BG into SM.
Possible, I suppose, but then they would be faced with needing to include
"NIH". :-)
--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high
Philip TAYLOR
2013-03-16 22:37:50 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by M Gordon
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
I would imagine that it would require very little work
to remove it from the user interface, leaving the kernel
in place, but if that were done, die-hard Composer users
would (with complete justification) ask "Why have you done
that ?".
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Would it be a suite if they removed Chat?
Of course.

Philip Taylor
M Gordon
2013-03-16 23:19:32 UTC
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Post by Philip TAYLOR
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by M Gordon
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
I would imagine that it would require very little work
to remove it from the user interface, leaving the kernel
in place, but if that were done, die-hard Composer users
would (with complete justification) ask "Why have you done
that ?".
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Would it be a suite if they removed Chat?
Of course.
Philip Taylor
Philip,

The logical resolution is to regress a few versions and let the user
decide which elements from the "Toolbox" he wants to download and install.

It all goes back to the age old argument, what the user wants, not what
the developer wants.

I can tell you this from experience. If Sea Monkey were provided at a
cost to the user I would find something else.

Michael G
PhillipJones
2013-03-17 03:17:05 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
Post by Philip TAYLOR
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by M Gordon
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
I would imagine that it would require very little work
to remove it from the user interface, leaving the kernel
in place, but if that were done, die-hard Composer users
would (with complete justification) ask "Why have you done
that ?".
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Would it be a suite if they removed Chat?
Of course.
Philip Taylor
Philip,
The logical resolution is to regress a few versions and let the user
decide which elements from the "Toolbox" he wants to download and install.
It all goes back to the age old argument, what the user wants, not what
the developer wants.
I can tell you this from experience. If Sea Monkey were provided at a
cost to the user I would find something else.
Michael G
That battle has been lost a long time ago. Even if it was a Battle to
begin with. The user at Mozilla has never counted for anything. It
always been what The developer want First.
--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjonescet-***@public.gmane.org
Ed Mullen
2013-03-17 15:02:35 UTC
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Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by M Gordon
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by Mark Berger
So why is it still included in the SM suite?
I have absolutely no idea. You should write to the developers and ask!
Post by Mark Berger
It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.
You are very correct.
Beau,
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
That could be possible, and may also be why they don't update Composer.
(Not that I would care, as I am a Plain Text email person.)
Post by M Gordon
If they did figure out how to remove it without harm, would SeaMonkey
still be an Internet Suite?
Would it be a suite if they removed Chat?
Post by M Gordon
It seems logical that the SM development team leader could contact the
developer of BlueGriffin and talk about porting BG into SM.
Possible, I suppose, but then they would be faced with needing to include
"NIH". :-)
NIH???
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Love is always bestowed as a gift - freely, willingly and without
expectation. We don't love to be loved; we love to love. - Leo Buscaglia
Philip TAYLOR
2013-03-17 15:11:52 UTC
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Post by Ed Mullen
NIH???
Not Invented Here.
Ed Mullen
2013-03-17 15:47:26 UTC
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Post by Philip TAYLOR
Post by Ed Mullen
NIH???
Not Invented Here.
Duh!

Thanks.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
An expert is someone who is tenacious enough to spend an infinite amount
of time muddling through the obscure to realize the obvious.
John
2013-03-17 00:18:49 UTC
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Post by M Gordon
Beau,
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
If they did figure out how to remove it without harm, would SeaMonkey
still be an Internet Suite?
It seems logical that the SM development team leader could contact the
developer of BlueGriffin and talk about porting BG into SM.
Michael G
Better not remove it or I will be ticked. I am not exactly interested in
the techno jargon as I jut want the basics. Those visiting my site are
more theological types that dont exactly know anything about this
computer business.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
»Q«
2013-03-17 18:02:58 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:25:14 -0700
[about the html composer]
Post by M Gordon
Post by Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Post by Mark Berger
So why is it still included in the SM suite?
I have absolutely no idea. You should write to the developers and ask!
Post by Mark Berger
It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.
You are very correct.
It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite,
and still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.
If they did figure out how to remove it without harm, would SeaMonkey
still be an Internet Suite?
With the old Mozilla Suite, it was possible to compile the browser
without compiling all the suite cruft you didn't want.
Ed Mullen
2013-03-15 01:25:08 UTC
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Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.

What exactly is "wrong"?

Screenshots?

I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Occasionally doing something totally crazy prevents permanent insanity.
Ed
2013-03-15 10:32:57 UTC
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Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
--
Ed
Jim Taylor
2013-03-15 11:48:01 UTC
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Post by Ed
Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
Read his problem again. He is not saying the page displays bad in a
browser. He is saying it is bad in SeaMonkeys "Composer". I don't
know what is causing his problem, but I can see it.

If I open the page in a browser, IE or SeaMonkey, the links on the
left side are white on a blue background. If I open that page in
SeaMonkey's html "Composer" they are blue on a blue background and
difficult to see. I don't know html enough to know if the colors are
being set in the external css sheet that Composer doesn't read or if
there is some other problem with Composer. Interestingly if you have
the page open in Composer and a browser window and follow a link in
the browser window the color of that link in the Composer changes to
the correct color (white 000000).
--
Jim
Ed Mullen
2013-03-15 16:45:54 UTC
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Post by Jim Taylor
Post by Ed
Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
Read his problem again. He is not saying the page displays bad in a
browser. He is saying it is bad in SeaMonkeys "Composer". I don't know
what is causing his problem, but I can see it.
If I open the page in a browser, IE or SeaMonkey, the links on the left
side are white on a blue background. If I open that page in SeaMonkey's
html "Composer" they are blue on a blue background and difficult to
see. I don't know html enough to know if the colors are being set in
the external css sheet that Composer doesn't read or if there is some
other problem with Composer. Interestingly if you have the page open in
Composer and a browser window and follow a link in the browser window
the color of that link in the Composer changes to the correct color
(white 000000).
Ahh. I missed that "... in its composer ..." Yes, it does look like
that. And, yes, the colors are specified in an external CSS file.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?
Ed
2013-03-15 18:50:34 UTC
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Post by Jim Taylor
Post by Ed
Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
Read his problem again. He is not saying the page displays bad in a
browser. He is saying it is bad in SeaMonkeys "Composer". I don't know
what is causing his problem, but I can see it.
If I open the page in a browser, IE or SeaMonkey, the links on the left
side are white on a blue background. If I open that page in SeaMonkey's
html "Composer" they are blue on a blue background and difficult to
see. I don't know html enough to know if the colors are being set in
the external css sheet that Composer doesn't read or if there is some
other problem with Composer. Interestingly if you have the page open in
Composer and a browser window and follow a link in the browser window
the color of that link in the Composer changes to the correct color
(white 000000).
Ahh. I missed that "... in its composer ..." Yes, it does look like that.
And, yes, the colors are specified in an external CSS file.
Shame on me for missing that also. I'll take 20 whacks with a wet noodle.
John
2013-03-16 14:42:21 UTC
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Post by Ed Mullen
Post by Jim Taylor
Post by Ed
Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
Read his problem again. He is not saying the page displays bad in a
browser. He is saying it is bad in SeaMonkeys "Composer". I don't know
what is causing his problem, but I can see it.
If I open the page in a browser, IE or SeaMonkey, the links on the left
side are white on a blue background. If I open that page in SeaMonkey's
html "Composer" they are blue on a blue background and difficult to
see. I don't know html enough to know if the colors are being set in
the external css sheet that Composer doesn't read or if there is some
other problem with Composer. Interestingly if you have the page open in
Composer and a browser window and follow a link in the browser window
the color of that link in the Composer changes to the correct color
(white 000000).
Ahh. I missed that "... in its composer ..." Yes, it does look like
that. And, yes, the colors are specified in an external CSS file.
How can I fix this? The page displays perfect in Komposer and Blue
Griffon, but I do not like those editors but prefer SM.
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
John
2013-03-16 14:41:45 UTC
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Post by Jim Taylor
Post by Ed
Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
Read his problem again. He is not saying the page displays bad in a
browser. He is saying it is bad in SeaMonkeys "Composer". I don't
know what is causing his problem, but I can see it.
If I open the page in a browser, IE or SeaMonkey, the links on the
left side are white on a blue background. If I open that page in
SeaMonkey's html "Composer" they are blue on a blue background and
difficult to see. I don't know html enough to know if the colors are
being set in the external css sheet that Composer doesn't read or if
there is some other problem with Composer. Interestingly if you have
the page open in Composer and a browser window and follow a link in
the browser window the color of that link in the Composer changes to
the correct color (white 000000).
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/iI202IysBz/Screen_Shot_2013-03-16_at_10.38.21_
AM.png.html
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
John
2013-03-16 14:41:13 UTC
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Post by Ed
Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
Specify ... specify.
What exactly is "wrong"?
Screenshots?
I loaded your page and, at a brief glance, saw nothing wrong.
Looks good to me also.
Perhaps his definition of "off" is not "no color", but "not the color I choose"?
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/iI202IysBz/Screen_Shot_2013-03-16_at_10.38.21_
AM.png.html
--
Are there errors in the Bible? Is Jesus Christ God?
After death whats on the other side? If you want to
learn, get answers, and be able to defend the faith,
CERM is your place. http://www.cerm.info
Ed Mullen
2013-03-17 15:06:17 UTC
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Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
BTW, just curious, but every page I've looked at on the site indicates
the page was created with Claris Homepage. Wondering why you stopped
using that and went with Composer.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Love is always bestowed as a gift - freely, willingly and without
expectation. We don't love to be loved; we love to love. - Leo Buscaglia
Geoff Welsh
2013-03-17 20:00:12 UTC
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Post by Ed Mullen
Post by John
I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??
BTW, just curious, but every page I've looked at on the site indicates
the page was created with Claris Homepage. Wondering why you stopped
using that and went with Composer.
Wikipedia says the last stable release was 1998, so we should be glad
anyone stopped using it
GW

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